Friday, February 02, 2018

FISA memo

I've a couple of other posts queued up and don't have anything novel to add at the moment, but diverting attention away from a scandal bigger than Watergate isn't something that can be done with a clear conscience. Collusion between the FBI and a presidential campaign to violate the constitutional protections of the oppositional presidential campaign? That's really bad.

Sessions should end his recusal immediately, interrogate every person mentioned in the memo, level perjury charges against any who are found to be lying--no one named is denying anything so presumably it's all true--recommend Mueller be fired for having known and done nothing about all of it, and then charge Mueller with conspiracy and obstruction.

Meanwhile, the top story (with graphic) in my twatter search feed:


Minimizing, downplaying, deflecting, and running interference isn't going to be enough here. We now have senators like Ron Johnson calling for communications between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to be reviewed. A scandal-free administration is what they used to say of Obama's presidency. Ha! Succulent schadenfreude.

A recurring theme that has emerged over the last couple of years is that of the left introducing something to destroy the right with and then the right repurposing it to destroy left. Fake News, accepting the outcome of an election, the putative sexual harassment 'epidemic', election interference, etc. It's almost as if Republicans are finally learning how to win (in short, by emulating the president).

Speaking of Clinton and Obama, they're both curiously quiet on the memo front. Neither has tweeted a thing since it was released to the public:



There is a lot of draining to do. This is only the beginning.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Twitter was trending some "the left can't meme" about how the memo was useless and it was indirectly confirming the truth behind muh Russian collusion.

Plenty of boomercons still going with DemsAreRealRussians nonsense.

If Russian influence was what it took to get Trump over the top to victory, it was a manifestly good thing. If Trump lost it was permanent rule for the left. The Right should be thanking Putin, not cheering on grrl power Nikki Haley.

Putin hasn't given a speech to Congress since 2001. PM Netanyahu has visited several times in the same years.

mark auld said...

We will find out how much sway the msm has left in this country, and how converged the pop. is...we will turn the tide or be inundated. And yes Virginia, we do live in interesting times.

Random Dude on the Internet said...

In my opinion, it doesn't have enough real smoking guns to elicit any real outrage. Everyone except for the true blue believers, doesn't buy the MUH RUSSIA narrative. Most people, correctly, think it is the Democrats being a bunch of sore losers because they can't comprehend losing to a guy who puts ketchup on his well done steak. The Democrats keep accumulating a negative perception with the public by keeping this farce going. If they're smart (and I'm glad they're not), they would have ended this political kabuki theater yesterday and try to put forth some real proposals to try to siphon some of the former lifelong working class Democrats who pulled the lever for a Republican for the first time since the 1980s.

Audacious Epigone said...

Anon,

Those afflicted by Trump Derangement Syndrome aren't going to change anything as a result.

This will help Trump with the tradcons and boomer nationalists though, the people who eagerly voted for Romney but reluctantly for Trump.

And it will help moderates/independents in general. It allows Trump to go really go on the offensive about what a waste of time and resources the Russia nonsense is.

Putin didn't do anything of significance to help Trump win the election.

Mark,

People need to be encouraged to read the memo. It takes five minutes. It's old hat to us, but for people who don't pay close attention, it's jaw-dropping.

Random Dude,

You may be right, but I think it could be a result of being far better informed than joe six-pack. Anecdotally, I had a few people not very politica\ I know message last night about how shocked they were by it. On the other hand, one of my based employees said "memo is lame".

Anonymous said...

The internet used to be individuals "surfing" MSM sites, blogs, and other things linked by hyperlink into a "world wide web".

Now people figuratively sit in a tiny room and view what facebook and twitter corporation projects on their wall.

The net has become worse than TV.

Yet they voluntarily got people to give up their freedom to self direct their experience with endorphin fueled likes and follows.

Jim Bowery said...

A confluence of 2 consequences could make this _really_ interesting, to me at least:

1) A unification of the Republicans who now control all 3 branches of the Federal government.
2) Detonating a moral neutron bomb right in the center of the Social Pozness Zombie blob just prior to the 2018 mid-terms.

If Team Trump pulls these two feats off, they just might be able to cap the MANY open sewer mains called "Circuit Courts" that turn any amnesty into a never ending flood of Zombie Americans. This would make hot civil war less than inevitable.

The post-SOTU, pre-memo RNC retreat where 200+ GOP congressmen had their lives threatened by a highly suspicious train wreck featured a speech by Trump quoting Ryan as saying Ryan had never seen the GOP so united.

Feryl said...

"And it will help moderates/independents in general. It allows Trump to go really go on the offensive about what a waste of time and resources the Russia nonsense is.

Putin didn't do anything of significance to help Trump win the election."

What's truly mind-bending is that (some) on the old school Left, back in the 50's-80's tsk-tsked the notion that the Soviets were a particularly threatening and subversive force. And this was even after the late 60's, when evidence was mounting by the the day that the Soviet regime was cruel, arrogant, and capable of seducing Americans into espionage. Oh, and the Soviets controlled a very large territory back then.

Nowadays, Russia is Russia, not the Soviet empire anymore. Putin is a pragmatist, not a Left wing idealist. With no empire to tend to anymore, the Russia political elite makes alliances and deals with other countries; it doesn't bully and invade other polities as once did, before the 1990's. Nor is it trying to annex much territory, save for a few territories that are highly ethnically Russian to begin with(e.g. Crimea, which Russia took back with the approval of Crimean people).

But go figure, the Left now wants us to fear, FEAR! the Russians. Really? The irony here is staggering, now just in terms of the Left's change of heart, but also in terms of the fact that America has perpetrated all of Putin's alleged crimes at a high level......As late as the Bush regime the American Left was largely disgusted by America's foreign policy excesses and multi-nationals. But after Obama that populism was squelched, probably because Obama did little to rein in the military, or the police state, or corporate corruption. Of course, now that Trump is in office suddenly the Left is remembering to oppose some bit of authority, but even then it's shocking how few Leftists are reviving the authentic populism of the pre-Obama era, as most Leftists blather about Russia and racism but few evince hostility towards corporations, war, or the general political establishment on both sides (remember, Tony Blair was hated by Leftists for siding with GW Bush).

Black Death said...

The Obama administration scandal free? LOL! Here's a list of eighteen major scandals of the Obama administration, including:

Fast and Furious, in which US border patrol agents were murdered by Mexican drug dealers

Eric Holder becomes the first sitting Attorney General to be held in contempt of Congress

Obamacare (If you like your insurance, you can keep it!)

IRS scandal (Imagine if a Republican administration did this to liberal organizations! Oh, the horror, the horror!)

Benghazi

Hillary's Russian uranium deal

The Clinton foundation

Hillary's email scandal

Animas river disaster.

Plus many more. Read the whole thing, then remember how the lying MSM told us there were no scandals in the Obama administration. Oh, the horror, the horror!

Sid said...

AE,

Agreed. This is worse than Watergate. Nixon basically had a gang of lackeys fiercely loyal to him who broke the law and spied on the Democrats for their boss. Vile stuff, Nixon being a gang leader.

But that's not as vile as getting the DOJ and FBI to be your personal CREEP. No, it goes against the fundamental fabric of our country to have policemen work for one party to subvert the other, far and away beyond the President having some guys who are there to intimidate his rivals.

Most people would readily agree that Lucky Luciano was a terrible person, but he harmed nowhere near as many people as Beria did. I think that comparison is very fair here.

Feryl,

At most, the Russians hacked the DNC and Podesta emails and released them through WikiLeaks.

Let's grant that happened, which is a major concession to the other side (as they were at least as likely internal leaks). Do I care? No, not really. All WikiLeaks did was reveal what the Democrats were saying among themselves and their lackeys in the media. I don't feel sorry for them.

What's more is the whole MSM was completely on Hillary's side and not just covered for her, but actively coordinated stories with her and the DNC.

No, I don't feel bad for the DNC for it being outed they sabotaged Bernie. I don't feel bad that the WikiLeaks shed more light on the Clinton world. And frankly, if Russian hackers revealed that the MSM was in collusion with the DNC, it's sad that hackers are doing the job of impartial journalists.

And that's it. No one has ever laid out how the Russians did anything beyond those hacks.

Random Dude,

When people ask me what's the thing I dislike most about Trump, I unironically say it's his eating steak well done and with ketchup. Barbarity of barbarities!

Random Dude on the Internet said...

> You may be right, but I think it could be a result of being far better informed than joe six-pack. Anecdotally, I had a few people not very politica\ I know message last night about how shocked they were by it. On the other hand, one of my based employees said "memo is lame".

I don't mean to downplay it because it does show that several government agencies were actively conspiring against the current president. It's a big deal but I always get disappointed that this never ends up with anyone in handcuffs, just strong yet useless "rebukes" and then that's it. If these people committed crimes, I want them arrested and locked up. Time for the left, especially in high government positions, to take some responsibility and be accountable for once in their lives.

Audacious Epigone said...

Jim,

Yes, there is the potential for seismic shifts to happen in the cultural and political landscape over the next couple of years. Threats that fail only embolden those who were threatened. It is suspicious that Trey Gowdy is calling it quits in Congress, though. His star has never been brighter.

I'm conditioned, from experience, to assume Republicans will find a way to muff it all up. We'll see.

Feryl,

Rhetorically, calling them the new McCarthyists is pretty effective.

Black Death,

Ha, yes indeed. They maintained there were no scandals in the face of all of those, and they'll continue to assert that there were never any in light of this. Barack Savior Syndrome is a condition often paired with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Sid,

In that Beria was embedded in and had at his disposal all the powers of the established order? Luciano was a manageable challenge to the Deep State; Beria was the Deep State.

Random Dude,

Sessions having recused himself for a year could conceivably end up working in Trump's favor, at least at this point. He can frame it as having allowed the investigation to proceed unimpeded, but now that it has become obvious that the investigation is a fraud, he steps in to start prosecuting Trump's corrupt, political hack persecutors.

Feryl said...

"Sessions having recused himself for a year could conceivably end up working in Trump's favor, at least at this point. He can frame it as having allowed the investigation to proceed unimpeded, but now that it has become obvious that the investigation is a fraud, he steps in to start prosecuting Trump's corrupt, political hack persecutors."

Session's seems oddly absent from media invective; either he's got dirt on a lot of Dems and reporters (but I repeat myself) or he's keeping his head so far down that the gate keepers basically forget he's even there anymore. Shit-libertarians have whined about the war on drugs, of course, but use of mind-altering psychedelic drugs is such a niche issue (really, there aren't that many people who regularly smoke pot) that most normies don't give a shit. And of course said normies have become rightfully concerned about use of prescription drugs and their illegal analogues.

The war for pot and the war against police evoke yawns and/or furrowed brows within Middle America. The War on Cops has been dialed down a lot since Trump won, as the MSM and liberal elites realized they bit off more than they could chew.

And lets no buy into the revisionist history regarding the War on Drugs. This war on drugs was broadly supported by middle class Americans in the 80's and 90's. And it was none other than black elites who called for anti-crack measures to clean up black communities. Getting tough on drugs was one of the last populist measures enacted by elites. The fact that some elites made money off of more arrests and longer prison sentences doesn't change the fact that society turned against drugs, big time, in the 80's and 90's. But the revisionists would have you believe that "everyone" can't stand the fact the fact that drug sellers are put behind bars for a long time. And "everyone" thinks we're wasting precious time and money.

Sid said...

AE,

Luciano was anything but a nice guy, but he ultimately had to restrain his actions in the face of law enforcement. In fact, the reason why he was such a monumental gangster was in how he was able to reduce violence and infighting within the mob. In contrast, Beria, who may or may not have been a crueler person than Luciano, enjoyed the full might of the Soviet state, and if anything he was part of a Stalinist engine that actively fanned febrile witchhunts to expand its power.

Murder Inc., which was the mob's enforcement arm roughly around Luciano's time, murdered around 800 to 1000 people. In contrast, the Great Terror during the same time period killed at least 700,000 people, and as many as 1.5 million.

As such, it's ultimately far more harmful when gangsters are the ones running the state, than when they have to work around it. However bad the mafia was for the US, it didn't do the damage to us what the Cheka and its successor organizations have done in the Soviet sphere.

By way of comparison, it wasn't as bad for Nixon to have lackeys willing to do dirty work for him as it has been for the Deep State to actively work for one presidential nominee while actively working against Trump.

Audacious Epigone said...

Feryl,

Hasn't rescinding the order been a tempest in a teapot? These federal prosecutors still live--and often hope to get elected further--in these states that have either de facto if not de jure legalized marijuana. Legalization is popular, prosecuting it won't be good for their careers, and so they won't prosecute it.

Sid,

Well put, thanks.

Feryl said...

"Hasn't rescinding the order been a tempest in a teapot? These federal prosecutors still live--and often hope to get elected further--in these states that have either de facto if not de jure legalized marijuana. Legalization is popular, prosecuting it won't be good for their careers, and so they won't prosecute it."

Which order?

Legalization is a niche issue. Nobody except Tommy Chong wakes up in the morning and thinks about it. It's not like health care, immigration, foreign policy (e.g. war), trade policy, etc. which have an immediate and important effect on people's material well-being.

Plus, the Right establishment is still largely against drug use. Probably because liberals are more likely to be pot heads. And the Right still caters to Boomers, and conservative leaning Boomers still hate drugs.

The rootless Western US has moved much faster to legalize drugs, and I do recall recent arguments about car crash rates in Colorado and recent expansion of pot sales.

"he survey also found an age difference between those that think marijuana should be legal and those that still support prohibition: 60% of 18- to 29-year-olds favor legalization while only 48% of those age 30–64 and 36% of those older than 65 feel this way.[40]" This all tracks with behavior trends. Boomers and X-ers grew up among drug burnouts and don't want to see younger generations go down that path. We could well see softening up of drug laws on the basis of the fact that so few people born since the late 80's actually do drugs. But ultimately very few people these days really care that much. These issues don't have the urgency that they did in the 70's-90's; eventually a generation will come of age being much more reckless than Millennials were/are, and we'll start seeing calls for vice crackdowns again.

Audacious Epigone said...

Feryl,

Sessions' order for federal prosecutors to stop following state laws in decisions on whether or not to prosecute drug crimes. Even if it's not officially what they are directed to do, it's what they'll end up doing by way of prosecutorial discretion on account of their own futures. IOW, nothing changes with Sessions' putative drug crack down.