Monday, September 18, 2017

It's not your party anymore

Everything white Democrats need to know in four short video clips:







20 comments:

Sid said...

For awhile, it looked like the white Boomers would have a free hand to run the Democratic Party before being replaced altogether by younger, swarthier leaders.

But too bad for them! Looks like they're losing out right now!

Random Dude on the Internet said...

> For awhile, it looked like the white Boomers would have a free hand to run the Democratic Party before being replaced altogether by younger, swarthier leaders.

That was going to be the ultimate gift boomers (of both political stripes) would leave behind as they start moving on from this world: turning all of their power they've gathered over the years over to women and minorities. That way boomers could be eternally worshiped as The Real Greatest Generation.

Instead they're just leaving behind flaming wreckage as their pet minorities become increasingly impudent and their white children (of both political stripes) increasingly hate them and consider them the butt of the joke. It's a fitting way for baby boomers to end things: by wanting to become the least racist and most tolerant generation of them all, they will end up being the most hated in recent history. Tom Brokaw isn't going to be writing a book on them anytime soon.

Anonymous said...

Zell Miller, the Democrat-turned-Republican who served as governor and US senator from Georgia, wrote:

Fiscal responsibility is unbelievable in the face of massive new spending promises. A foreign policy based on the strength of 'allies' like France is unacceptable …A strong national defense policy is just not believable coming from a candidate who built a career as an anti-war veteran, an anti-military candidate and an anti-action senator. …When will national Democrats sober up and admit that that dog won't hunt? Secular socialism, heavy taxes, big spending, weak defense, limitless lawsuits and heavy regulation – that pack of beagles hasn't caught a rabbit in the South or Midwest in years.

....

I met Miller a few years ago, and he was very polite. However, he has a temper - he once regretted that he couldn't challenge Chris Matthews to a duel!

BTW, @Random Dude - don't blame the Baby Boomers - they are the only age demographic that gave Trump a clear majority (53%). Trump's percentage drops to 42 % among 30-44 year olds and 37% in the 18-29 demographic.

@ Packers and Movers - I visited Chennai two years ago. Very nice, although the weather was beastly hot.

dc.sunsets said...

Nothing funnier than watching Sailer's Coalition of the Fringes engage in mutual back-stabbing.

I must assume that the minority masses are now in pre-conscious understanding that the time of ganging up on YT to milk him dry has reached the "dry phase," and it's time to go to war with their erstwhile "colleagues" over what little is left to plunder.

Audacious Epigone said...

Sid,

If the DNC tries to push another undead white at the top of the ticket in 2020, we can expect a lot more of this to happen sooner rather than later.

Random Dude,

The boomer generation is shaping up to be an inflection point in American history in so many ways. Another one--their children are the first generation of Americans who are having a tougher time in life than their parents did. Gen Z will be in the same boat, but without much realistic hope of things changing (like millennials had).

Anon,

The R-I exit poll showed age and voting Trump correlating all the way across the age spectrum. That's disguising the racial confound, though. With the exception of millennials, whites of all ages went pretty solidly for Trump.

dc.sunsets,

The only thing that would've made the thing better is if the mob would've torn Pelosi to pieces.

... Figuratively, of course! Censors, no violence is being advocated here.

Sid said...

The two undead white Boomers who have a solid shot in 2020 (from what is now visible, at least) are Joe Biden* and Elizabeth Warren. I don't see Warren garnering much elite DNC support because Wall Street hates her (and let's not pretend the Democratic Party is the anti-Wall Street party: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-18/obama-goes-from-white-house-to-wall-street-in-less-than-one-year?cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social), but I do see the DNC being fine with Joe Biden.

If the DNC hands it to Biden, then I believe you're correct and we'll see more of these incidents.

My own view is that Booker/Harris/Patrick will win out, unless they all run at the same time and cut up the black vote among themselves. That would make it possible for the superdelegates to congregate around Biden, or for the Democratic SWPLs to form an implicitly anti-black, pro-feminist bloc and get Warren the win.

* I've been skeptical Biden will run in 2020, given his age. Even so, it seems like he regrets not running in 2016 and his family members consistently hint he has it in him to run again. Unlike Hillary, he still seems energetic and as sharp as he's ever been. Make of that as you will.

Jonathan Centauri said...

There was never any "coalition" to begin with. All the deracination of Whites was never used on the trash of brown and dark. The natural proclivity of race has simply come out due to the premature celebrations of the End of White Power. These dumb dark skinned trash always expected to turn on the nice white lady power base. The White wimmens are about to be driven right. Demographics is destiny. WMDs are the wild card. Whites have em and dumb brown don't. This is War. They are invaders. Violence is INEVITABLE NOW. They are not coming for jobs, sport. They are coming to LOOT because they are FAR TOO DUMB TO BUILD THAT.

Sid said...

Jonathan Centauri,

I strongly urge you to not use crude language about minorities, such as referring to them as "dumb dark skinned trash." There's a crackdown on alt-right/race realist commentators and forums currently, and we have an obligation to help our hosts avoid the Censors' wrath. Furthermore, such language turns off normies that are on the fence, and it prevents us from establishing agreements or understandings with minorities who could be persuaded to embrace nativist policies in the future.

I am not asking you to change your beliefs, but we're all part of a team. Let's not sabotage ourselves. I appreciate having forums where I can speak honestly about my views on race and policy, so please don't say things that will put them under fire.

Random Dude on the Internet said...

The 2020 election is going to be one of those things where it will really sink into the minds of centrist and independent leaning Democrats that they're no longer wanted in the party that they've been voting for their whole life. At least with Hillary you had the facade of "coming together" mostly through nostalgia of her husband's presidency. That will be gone (although she will linger like a fart in a shower if she hasn't stroked herself into being a vegetable by then) and replacing it will be a bunch of angry minority and victim advocacy groups, demanding their pound of flesh for various grievances, real and imagined. It will be ear-splittingly negative. Obama had many flaws but he was able to keep all the factions and fringes together to vote for him in 2008 and 2012. Hillary was far less successful, losing a lot of minorities and likely many BernieBros. 2020 will be even worse. Nobody that has been proposed will be able to keep the fringes from falling apart.

Oh, it'll be reinforced by their hatred of whitey but that isn't enough. It never was enough which is why Hillary lost. At least with Hillary, white centrists could pretend to work their way through her anti-white campaign, mostly because she is white. If Kamala Harris said the things Hillary did, then she would have done much worse. It's like The Daily Show and Colbert Report: white liberals were okay with their own skewering them but when it was Larry Wilmore and Trevor Noah, it became a lot less comfortable. Obama kept the racial tension from simmering until after he won the second term because if he acted in 2012 the way he did from 2013-2016, he would have lost, even with a hapless loser like Mitt Romney.

I guess what I'm getting at is that this will be the most #woke election but it will be so disturbing to centrists that they will either defect to the Republicans or just stay home. If Biden or Warren think they deserve a shot, they're going to have to find a way to get the increasingly angrier pet minorities to heel. Warren I think will fail here but Biden might if Obama practically joins him at the hip to keep pushing him as his "successor." I think Trump will win in 2020 so it's all moot. The Democrats are utterly screwed because the Obama Era hollowed out the Democrats at almost all levels nationwide except for deep blue hovels like California.

Feryl said...

"The R-I exit poll showed age and voting Trump correlating all the way across the age spectrum. That's disguising the racial confound, though. With the exception of millennials, whites of all ages went pretty solidly for Trump."


Yeah, these breakdowns don't really mean anything unless you adjust for race. Neil Howe has talked a lot about how monolithic generational trends used to be when, America was over 80% white. With X-ers and subsequent generations, we're just not going to see sweeping trends like we used to, being that America as a homogeneous place is pretty much finished.

CJ said...

"For awhile, it looked like the white Boomers would have a free hand to run the Democratic Party before being replaced altogether by younger, swarthier leaders."

Nancy Pelosi (b. 1940) and Bernie Sanders (b. 1941) are not Boomers. They are pre-Boomers, members of the Silent Generation if you like. This is not nitpicking; many of the social and policy changes associated with Boomers were in fact already in place or being put into place before any Boomers could vote (the 1968 elections for the very earliest Boomers.

James said...

So over 50% of all categories believes PC is a threat. But, PC policy is still implemented. I guess those that are ruled aren't the ones that make the decisions. Am I Captain Obvious, or what?

CJ said...

I left out pre-Boomer Joe Biden (b. 1942). This entire generation of Democrat liberals had already gotten bachelor's degrees by the time the Beatles hit it big.

dc.sunsets said...

Sid said: Unlike Hillary, he still seems energetic and as sharp as he's ever been. Make of that as you will.

At least The Old Bat had the sense to grope women and girls only when the cameras were off.

dc.sunsets said...

AE: The only thing that would've made the thing better is if the mob would've torn Pelosi to pieces.

... Figuratively, of course! Censors, no violence is being advocated here.


I don't know...watching her plaintively call for quiet, then admonish them (as is every Leftist's penchant) was funnier than anything except a 29 second video that was part of a twitter reply to Vox Day's meme war of yesterday.
https://twitter.com/voxday/status/910069089024036866

Now that this phase of history as moved thoroughly into the Farce Zone, we are freed to use open ridicule and gusts of belly laughs as these clowns. It's quite liberating, no?

Sid said...

I suppose you could say that the rug will be pulled away from white Democrats just as the Silents head off into the sunset. Which would corrborate Feryl's claim that it was really the Silents who got the best in everything relative to what they put in.

Audacious Epigone said...

Jonathan,

There was an effective electoral coalition, anyway. But as you say there's nothing that binds it in any way. Put antifa and BLM in a room, and...

Agree with Sid. It's fine line I'm walking, especially after a post on free speech preeminence. I'll never censor ideas, but I'm considering censoring overly colorful language that only serves rhetorical purposes because 1) it's generally not rhetorically effective, and 2) it puts this platform at unnecessary risk.

Random Dude,

although she will linger like a fart in a shower if she hasn't stroked herself into being a vegetable by then

Literally laughed out loud. Wife just asked me to show her what I was looking at.

Re: Biden, that's my sense--if he can get Obama's full-throated support, he might be viable. That would probably require Booker, Harris, and Patrick (the latter of whom is allegedly being urged to run by Obama), all bowing out though. If any of them run and Obama is publicly backing Biden--look out!

Feryl,

Exactly. There's just no way to provide a coherent, blanket description of a generational cohort that is 50% white, 25% Hispanic, 15% black, and 10% Asian/other.

CJ,

Important point (though one Feryl is well aware of). Silent put all the disastrous things into place. Boomers could've rebelled to overturn, but instead doubled down.

James,

Derb talked about this in his podcast last week. Same thing with immigration. Almost nobody wants tens of millions of illegal aliens, or 7-figure annual visa awards--but that's what we keep getting.

dc.sunsets,

Yeah, a good-natured normie Democrat casual friend of mine was critical of Pelosi's domineering, hypocritical responses paired with a ridiculous presence (shaking horribly, etc) and a lack of security (gross incompetence? Naively thinking she was among friends?)

Feryl said...

Nancy Pelosi (b. 1940) and Bernie Sanders (b. 1941) are not Boomers. They are pre-Boomers, members of the Silent Generation if you like. This is not nitpicking; many of the social and policy changes associated with Boomers were in fact already in place or being put into place before any Boomers could vote (the 1968 elections for the very earliest Boomers.

Cranky older people took out much of their frustration on youngsters back then, and no wonder. Americans by the early 70's had an average age that was like 15-20 years younger than what it had been in the 40's. There were so many kids, with their scruffy hair, and their tie-dye shirts, and their bell-bottoms, and their heavy metal, of course they were going to take the brunt of the blame (or credit). The Boomers themselves encourage this mythology, because....Why not? They knew they were awesome, might as well enjoy the limelight.

Silents could never figure out whether to shepherd Boomers, or take them to task for never being grateful to older generations who made Boomer culture possible. As you guys say, every major change of the 1960's was instigated by GIs and Silents, but since kids most enthusiastically embraced these changes, and there were so damn many Boomers, it was bound to be kids who'd get credit. And keep in mind that in the 50's and early 60's, older generations found young Boomers to be endearingly excitable, and they seemed to be developing a strength of personal conviction that neurotic Silents and inwardly empty GIs lacked. Strauss and Howe stress that in no other generational type is such headstrong sense of righteous worth found.

It's also worth pointing out, given how from an early age, Boomers favored the dark and the apocalyptic (heavy metal), that Boomers have often fantasized about tearing everything down. So much of what was built from the 40's-80's was guided by GIs and Silents, while restless Boomers always found fault in these projects and developments. Indeed, NIMBYISM flourished under Boomers, who also resolutely refused to participate in civics like older generations did. In the 90's and beyond, under the "leadership" of Boomers, moral crusades have taken precedence over concrete results.

Anonymous said...

In the early 2000s, terms like REE, normies, etc were used by people like me. Not people like you. People that you think are ruining the democratic party, even though we weren't democrats until recently because labor democrat type kids were the ones who kicked our black/brown asses in bensonhurst.

We were libertarianish, brown kids in the hood and the trailer parks finding refuge on the internet. We went to 4chan, the Misc and Autoadmit to feel better about ourselves when we were dissed by legacy America, Chad and Stacy and mainstream rappers. Sure there were white kids there but it doesn't mean that it was 'pro white', phaggot.

You didn't have to be on the internet to find a place, we did. You didn't have to play SC and CS to find a place, we did. And now you're stealing our lingo, we will retaliate by voting against your WASP asses. Like a snake, "join, or die".

Bryant said...

What nonsense. Is this going to be some new revision of internet history now?

I was there in near the beginning of the modern internet, it was pretty much all white and yellow boys who were "finding a place" playing SC and CS because we /enjoyed/ it, not in some form of weird escapism from reality. I recall one hispanic guy, and even he couldn't fit in well. We ran raids on each others forums, argued about the merits of nazism and communism, and had no limits whatsoever on speech. It was a time when you could argue about how gay people were terrible, and get put down too for being stupid.

It was a time of helluva intellectual diversity, even if you didn't have much "racial" or "sexual" diversity.

We didn't really think about race because we were all similar. Indeed, the bullshit you mentioned is exposed by the fact that you're not even talking about the actual categories there: forums, /b/, /tg/ the Pilot's Lounge, BBS, mailing lists...

...get lost, poser.

Seriously, do you really have to make up fake history for everything?