Thursday, August 17, 2017

Reconfiguring the American political landscape

Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell has occupied the upper chamber for as long as I've been alive. Every six years, Kentucky Republicans dutifully return him to office, and his colleagues have honored him as the ultimate Establishment Republican by awarding him the position of majority leader.

For those who want to see the Stupid Party burned to the ground and replaced by what Trump was groping for during the presidential campaign, the following graph should be heartening. It shows the percentages of Reuters-Ipsos poll respondents, by partisan affiliation, who approve* of president Trump and of senator McConnell (n = 26,772 and 5,127, respectively):


Their overall approval ratings are nearly equal, with Caesar enjoying an edge of less than 3 points on Brutus. Trump gets there on the backs of Republicans. In contrast, while nearly half of McConnell's support comes from non-Republicans, scarcely half of Republicans support him.

Trump is no longer a novelty. He's been in office for eight months and he's been the most talked about person in the world for years now. For all his trials and tribulations, his political vision is replacing that of McConnell and his coterie among the red deme's rabble.

Some of those who called themselves Republicans five years ago no longer do so even though their high opinion of McConnell hasn't wavered. And many of those who couldn't stand McConnell and wouldn't wear a scarlet R five years ago, still can't stand McConnell today but do now consider themselves Republicans on account of their president.

* The Trump poll asks about "approval", the McConnell poll about "favorability". "Mixed feelings" responses are excluded.

22 comments:

Sid said...

It looks like Trump is breaking decisively with the GOPe. It turned out they were lying to us for seven years about repealing and replacing Obamacare and helped waste months of Trump's time on an issue they were ready to sabotage. They're mad about white nationalists but are totally nonchalant about antifa assaulting their voters. Trump is angry about these matters, and he dismissed Priebus.

Now is the time for us to organize and pull for MAGA candidates in the 2018 primaries. We can do it on social media and through word of mouth. A lot of people need the Eric Cantor treatment, so let's search for and prop up Nehlen and candidates like him.

Granted, I'll likely be voting Republican in the generals of 2018. Cucks are worthless, but they at least are less inclined to impeach than the Dems Trump should they stay the majority. (That said, they can't be commended for loyalty... Maybe they will try to impeach him to prove they're not racist!) But I'd like to cast my general election ballots for those who will enact a MAGA agenda. Now is the time to be getting on this.

Anonymous said...

" But I'd like to cast my general election ballots for those who will enact a MAGA agenda. "

I'd like Yellow Ponies for everyone.

No one but the People and Trump want the MAGA agenda, you've ruled out the entire political class down to the City Councils and the reasons are POWER and MONEY which is why people go into Government in the first place and stay in govt.

Our political class will enact the MAGA Agenda when we are surrounding their desks pointing our RightsKeepers [TM] at them.

vxxc

Black Death said...

Now California wants to secede from the union. Maybe the Confederacy wasn't so bad after all.

Jim Bowery said...

Your links to the polls provide no immediate indication of the populations polled. The important thing is the voting population. In the case of Trump it is national. In the case of McConnell, it is his State. What is being done to challenge McConnell in the next primary?

Sid said...

"No one but the People and Trump want the MAGA agenda, you've ruled out the entire political class down to the City Councils and the reasons are POWER and MONEY which is why people go into Government in the first place and stay in govt.

Our political class will enact the MAGA Agenda when we are surrounding their desks pointing our RightsKeepers [TM] at them."

What it takes to succeed as a conventional politician in liberal democratic politics is to be able to sell what your donors want to your voters.

If you don't have donors, forget it, you can't run a campaign. You can't buy advertisements, you can't pay for large meeting halls, you can't pay for a campaign staff.

If you're not a conventional politician and you win the election, you still have to work or lock horns with those who have donor networks. It's not easy.

What Trump was able to do, however, was run on our programme, and then use his star power and social media savvy to catapult himself to the White House. Even so, he's still having to work with politicians who are representing moneyed interests who have a huge stake in America's decline.

What we CAN do is launch a social media campaign so that primary voters can pick out and choose MAGA and unseat the cucks.

Who knows, Bannon has a lot of time on his hands now.

Dan said...

I am so frustrated right now:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-border-security-20170818-story.html


Why does Trump surround himself with Democrats and nevertrumpers?

Where do we go from here? I was depressed when I saw what Bannon said after his departure. Doesn't Trump realize he needs ideologically similar people around him? Is he just too trusting?

Why does there even have to be fight for Trumpism and populism in Trump's White House? I mean he is the boss there, right? I mean he may not be in charge of congress but he does get to staff the WH...

Dan said...

There are just no words for how much I hate the Republican establishment right now.

Well look at this...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/18/media-narrative-poll-fail-large-majority-of-americans-support-keeping-confederate-monuments/

After a week of torture-chamber gas-lighting, it turns out that Americans, even in a Democrat-skewed poll, OVERWHELMINGLY support keeping southern monuments in place.

WTF have Republicans been acting this way for?

Republicans have been going full cuck over this, attacking the President like crazy. I'll confess, I was gas-lighted into believing Trump had a big problem just based on the parade of Republican condemnations. It turns out Trump wasn't even going out on a limb with this. These F-ers aren't just getting played, they are desperate to cuck. It's not about folding to pressure. Its that they are themselves rabid SJW activists.

How does this happen? How is it that so much of the Republican leadership is so eager to shoot at their own side?

In Rubio's case, I'll allow that he's just not bright but Romney I have a special hatred for. Does he not recall that he was attacked as a racist and bigot in his own campaign?




Dan said...

It's all so easy. Populism is a winning concept. Trump can just tell the Republicans what to say and they only have to follow.

But no, they have to have more third world poor, more stupid wars, more deficits, and some tax cuts for the rich.

The sanctions on Russia in Congress were unanimous. Is there anyone who cares a fig about that?

Dear God, I must be living in a simulation. Such desire to lose continuously cannot be possible.

Maybe Bannon works with Mercer to destroy a few Republicans, to encourage the others.

Corvinus said...

"After a week of torture-chamber gas-lighting, it turns out that Americans, even in a Democrat-skewed poll, OVERWHELMINGLY support keeping southern monuments in place."

Out of 1,125 adults surveyed.

Most normies abhor the Confederacy. It represented slavery and secession. The Confederacy sought to DESTROY our nation. The norms are about what those monuments represent FROM THE PAST. They do not care that monuments serve as a historical record, nor do they care about the history of such individuals the monuments pay tribute to. Yes, Robert E. Lee opposed slavery. Yes, he had significant reservations about personally abandoning the Union. But what matters most is that he supported the Confederacy.

What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here. The Confederacy monuments and the Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln monuments are on a separate moral plane as viewed by normies. In the end, the monuments are used as political pawns by the right and the left, not as historical pieces. I say move the monuments to private property. But in the meantime, anyone who rips them down now and in the future is defacing public property and ought to be arrested.

Anonymous said...

Out of 1,125 adults surveyed.

lol do you understand how scientific polling works?

Feryl said...

Chill out, what's going on right now is quite similar to what we saw in the early 1990's. Elites get fixated on what they find "offensive" and beat up on anyone who disagrees. Regardless of what elites think or do, most people have better things to do than to get that worked up about "racism" or whatever.

Native "less-educated" whites are getting sick and tired of spoiled and officious liberal whites and uppity blacks/foreigners (via birth or alien cultural practices like Islam) trying to revise Western history and take our culture away from us.

Some survey I saw a few weeks ago said that 5-10% of white Americans thought that whites faced discrimination when asked in 2005, but 10 years later that number has risen to over 40% (!). BLM type agitators/white genocide enthusiasts have a lot to do with provoking more whites into waking up, but perhaps the sentiment is also driven by the POC waves that seem to be getting bigger with each passing year. For example, a white person seeking a job in the 90's or early 2000's had to compete with a certain number of non-whites/AA recipients, of which there were enough already at that time but in the subsequent era the numbers of competitors has soared. And while liberal minded whites, of whom most live in or near major metro areas, are accustomed to diversity by this point, more conservative and proleish whites are horrified by the non-white hordes that seem to be encroaching upon every mid-major metro area, much of the first ring surrounding that area, and increasingly the second and even third ring beyond that.

One of the best comments I've seen about this was at Isteve. A poster said that in Maine (which voted much more GOP than usual) every hijab or burka is worth at least 2-3 voters being pushed off the fence into Trump's camp. Islam is by far the most divisive and ugly element of "new" America, and the Left has clearly embraced Islam and the "refugee" racket. That huge 2016 red swath represents anxiety that the Left for inexplicable reasons is soft on Islam which hates the West.

Feryl said...

Lest we be too hard on Mexicans, consider this: Mexicans are un-PC, typically at least 30-40% European (and sometimes 50-70% Euro), muscled blacks out of much of California, and are firmly Catholic. Likely they won't back down against the towel heads. We'll probably have to recruit a decent number of them to stop the onslaught of liberals and other people who hate the West.

I think us Good white people can tolerate a fair number of Mexicans and Asians, but the spread of Arabs/blacks/Muslims is terrifying, and rightfully so. Fortunately native black birth rates have declined a lot since the mid 90's, but so long as we don't control our immigration then we're going to get a lot of dark skins to make up for low-native birth rates. Either we want the West to remain itself, or we're going to eventually be subjected to racial politicking/warfare since Islam is incapable of not trying to impose itself on whatever countries it's in at the moment.

Anonymous said...

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Random Dude on the Internet said...

People may abhor the Confederacy but are against the statues getting pulled down because they know that they'll move onto other "problematic" figures next. They know that it's Stonewall Jackson and then George Washington next. The endgame is removing all traces of history that were a product of straight white men. Pulling down statues one day, renaming highways the next. I'm glad normies are figuring out how the left works because for a while the slippery slope argument was universally derided.

> WTF have Republicans been acting this way for?

These people live in a bubble. They do the bidding of billionaire globalists who want all traces of nationalism removed so they can cut labor costs by importing the third world. They fear the press because of a belief that they can make or break you. They put a lot of stock into goons like Nate Silver and if your approval rating drops by three percent (without caring how they got the numbers) then that means you better change course.

So much beltway BS has ruined them. Time for a class of MAGA shitlords to start prioritizing what the public actually wants instead of trying to goad the public into yet another Middle East boondoggle.

Audacious Epigone said...

Sid,

It looks that way on one hand, while Bannon's remarks make it appear otherwise. Keep us perpetually guessing, friend and foe alike.

We need a MAGA mid-term voter guide.

VXXC,

Hearts and minds have to be won first. Even if armed insurrection were desirable--and as a reasonable guy with two young children, it strikes me as totally undesirable--the outcome would be contingent upon what the state's foot soldiers (military, police, etc) did in response. Waving a swastika around sure as hell isn't going to help.

Jim,

Tactically, that's right. In terms of the political culture, though, the fact that Republican is becoming more synonymous with Trump and less synonymous with McConnell is a good thing overall.

Dan,

Trump is a man of the late seventies and eighties. He's dressed the same for four decades and he's thought the same for four decades. His reaction to the C'Ville setup was the reaction of a politically moderate businessman from the eighties. He's not crazy, the swamp creatures are.

Even blacks are basically split 50/50.

Trump needs to return to his campaign rhetoric about his political frenemies being bought men, dancing marionettes who do the bidding of their paymasters. They can't be that delusional (at least not the smart ones like you say).

Feryl,

I think there'd be a sizable amount of support among US-born Hispanics for a moratorium on immigration, probably in the area of 40%. Pragmatically, that's the best way to sell it--repatriation of non-citizens, a moratorium on immigration.

Anon,

If he said that, verbatim, it's be more evidence that physiognomy is real!

Random Dude,

Right. It's not difficult to see the line of reasoning that goes from really, really bad dead white man today to really bad dead white men tomorrow. There's is a growing realization that this will NEVER stop. It destroys one thing and then moves onto the next.

Corvinus said...

Sid-"Granted, I'll likely be voting Republican in the generals of 2018. Cucks are worthless, but they at least are less inclined to impeach than the Dems Trump should they stay the majority."

Then you are no different than the globalist elites that you are supposedly vehemently oppose. The lesser of two evils is a cop-out.

Sid--"What Trump was able to do, however, was run on our programme, and then use his star power and social media savvy to catapult himself to the White House."

He ran on an agenda that he does not necessarily believe in, given his past affiliations with Democrats and liberal ideas, because he is a showman, and he has been nearly his entire life. He took what the people wanted and packaged it. He was in the right place at the right time, beating a notoriously flawed candidate. Why don't you think Sailer has been noticeably quiet regarding Trump's agenda and his political future? Why hasn't he been hyping him like others on the Alt Left? Because I think Sailer knows Trump is a phony, that his past is going to catch up with him, and if the shit hits the fan, those who were touting Trump's MAGA will be left holding the bag. He is noticing to NOT get on the Trump bandwagon.

Anonymous--"lol do you understand how scientific polling works?"

The overwhelming majority of nearly 1200 people asked in a survey believe that the monuments should be left alone.

Random Dude On The Internet--"People may abhor the Confederacy but are against the statues getting pulled down because they know that they'll move onto other "problematic" figures next. They know that it's Stonewall Jackson and then George Washington next."

Again, there is a different between Stonewall and George. One destroyed, the other created. One is muddy, the other has dirt on their hands.

"The endgame is removing all traces of history that were a product of straight white men. Pulling down statues one day, renaming highways the next."

When they tear down the statues of the Founding Fathers in D.C., then I'll be totally convinced.

"I'm glad normies are figuring out how the left works because for a while the slippery slope argument was universally derided."

You mean how the Coalition of the Left Fringe and how the Coalition of the Right Fringe works.

Audacious Epigone said...

Corvinus,

Sailer was never on the Trump bandwagon for reasons similar to why Murray wasn't, though Sailer doesn't feel a compulsion to put his emotional reactions on display so he mostly kept quiet and made sensible observations as he experienced them.

More broadly, there will be no one in this orbit left holding the bag, so-to-speak. To the extent that Trump fails, it'll be on account of not running his administration in accordance to his campaign but instead morphing into a standard Republican in the mold of Bush or Rubio. The Trump phenomenon is still a great thing even in that case, as there will be sharper, more disciplined aspiring politicians who have seen the effectiveness of Trump's populist message and will run with it in the future.

Trump is largely a transitional figure. That's more than any of the other cucks could have been.

Random Dude on the Internet said...

> Again, there is a different between Stonewall and George. One destroyed, the other created. One is muddy, the other has dirt on their hands.

Says you. There is a segment of the US who claim one is no better than the other.

I'm done granting any concessions to the left.

Audacious Epigone said...

It's not a slippery slope, it's a greased skid.

Next it'll be George Washington was a slave owner so he has to go, but John Adams wasn't so he's okay. Then it'll be John Adams has to go because he wasn't an abolitionist but Alexander Hamilton was so he's okay. Alexander Hamilton's opinion of American Indians was... and on and on and on.

Random Dude on the Internet said...

Alexander Hamilton is now an honorary non-white because of the play. They were going to take him off the $10 bill but opted not to purely for that reason (not joking).

Audacious Epigone said...

I should've used Aaron Burr above. I thought about it. Maybe after Adams gone but Burr okay because an abolitionist, it goes Burr out because of what he thought of the American Indians but Hamilton okay because of his honorary non-whiteness, etc!

Corvinus said...

Random--"Says you. There is a segment of the US who claim one is no better than the other."

The Alt Right generally claims that they are superior in this regard. Don't fool yourself.

"They do the bidding of billionaire globalists who want all traces of nationalism removed so they can cut labor costs by importing the third world."

That's called being a smart capitalist. It's ALWAYS been that way. Look at the "Captains Of Industry/Robber Barons" of the late 1800's and their conduct. Do they not have the liberty to do what they want with their property? Do they not have the liberty to ensure that their interests prevail?

How about running for political office and working to take down the globalists?

AE--"To the extent that Trump fails, it'll be on account of not running his administration in accordance to his campaign but instead morphing into a standard Republican in the mold of Bush or Rubio."

His inauguration speech TOLD you the direction he was going to take.

"Trump is largely a transitional figure. That's more than any of the other cucks could have been."

Cuck is a worthless meme.

"The Trump phenomenon is still a great thing even in that case, as there will be sharper, more disciplined aspiring politicians who have seen the effectiveness of Trump's populist message."

That message has always been around. What Trump did was package it Hollywood style. And who are these "sharper, more discipline aspiring politicians" you refer to?

"More broadly, there will be no one in this orbit left holding the bag, so-to-speak."

No, it will be the American people.