Wednesday, February 15, 2017

Midwestern Nice meets the exotic Other

and finds out firsthand that the National Question is about more than just economic expediency (recorded from my smartphone, forgiveness please):



8 comments:

Feryl said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/02/15/a-professor-called-trumps-victory-terrorism-a-student-who-recorded-the-rant-got-suspended/?utm_term=.5ed17d79bcc1

"The Orange Coast College Republicans in Costa Mesa, Calif., are filing a complaint against human sexuality professor Olga Perez Stable Cox"

"After weeks of threatening messages in her inbox and voice mail about the video — “Marxist,” “nutcase,” “vile leftist filth” — she became frightened herself.

“Now, at 66, I’m paranoid,” she said in December. “I feel like I’ve been attacked by a mob of people all across the country.”

Campus security began dropping by Cox’s classroom. Sympathetic students escorted her to class, worried about her safety.

She fled her home and turned her class over to a substitute after getting an email that listed her home address, phone number and salary — and threatened to spread the information “everywhere.”"

Things to consider:
- Olga (slavic/Jewish?), Perez (self-explanatory). Four names.
- West coast
- Worthless yet overpaying job for communist (Camile Paglia wrote a fantastic article about the post-1970 haphazard AA appointment of countless underqualified/underbrained people who neither white nor male).
- Early Boomer PC attitudes and anti-Americanism that continues to dominate everything. Since Boomers ascended to the throne in the later 80's, taxpayer funded institutions have been subsidizing their pollution of the commons with virtually no accountability or restraint,
- We're fighting back! And a 19 year old in enemy territory started it. In the great culture war of the late 80's-2015, the only thing right wingers ever gave militant push back on was abortion (perhaps not coincidentally, attacks on abortionists peaked in the 90's when large numbers of Millennials were born).

I saw a Gallup survey which said that Gen X-ers (who they track as born from the mid 60's-1979) are experiencing the least amount of stress after the election. Even if X-ers were prone to the same level of communism as Boomers (and they're not), their detachment and humility would not let them be as destructively "passionate" (crazy over zeal) as Boomers.

Anonymous said...

"Feinstein" is an old Other not a new one...

Audacious Epigone said...

Feryl,

There is no compromising with or accommodating CultMarxist SJWs. Go at them with figurative krav maga and don't stop until they're limp.

Do you have a link to that Gallup poll? What year were you born?

Anon,

The actor is apparently Greek but could easily portray someone from Anatolia or anything nearby. The Jewish last name is weird. Plausible deniability is important. The show lampoons middle America, especially by way of the townsfolk extras, but it's also a running commentary on the ineffectiveness and corruption that is the modern bureaucratic governmental state.

Feryl said...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-15/americans-just-broke-the-psychologists-stress-record

From the APA, actually (American Psych Assoc.)

I was born in April 1985; for the record I don't agree with the practice of acting like people born in the early 80's are magically different than people born in the 70's. I've come to think that what really affects people is the zeitgeist of a decade. If you were born 7 years into a decade (e.g. 1966 or 1986), you're not really going to remember much of anything about the decade, particularly if born later in the year. By the time you get to the 8th year, it's impossible to remember anything. So if you were born in '67, you're not a child of the 60's; you're a child of the 70's.

We're most impressionable when kids and teens; the first two-three decades we remember will have an everlasting effect on who we are. That's what accounts for how someone born in 1961 can seem so different than someone born in 1968; Boomers remember and will always be haunted by the schizo nature of the 60's (proto 50's culture early on, then starting in earnest with JFK's death, one by one, things changed. Those changes were complete by the 70's; real Gen X-ers (e.g. those born after 1966) have NEVER known a world where stoicism, modesty, good faith teamwork and effort, and so on were earnestly pursued and rewarded.

Also, when we hit puberty seems to make a difference too. If you're born in the 6th or 7th year of a decade, it means that you're 13-14 at the end of the next decade. And the teen culture of every decade is different; if you were born from 1974-1986, you got to experience the teen culture of the 90's which will imprint on you. Whereas if you born in '87 or later, you're not getting that experience.

Agnostic for awhile thought that Gen "Z" (e.g. those born in the 80's) would benefit from being teenagers/very young adults in the early-mid 2000's, which he claims (perhaps not anymore) were refreshing compared to the 90's. Looking back at actual cultural practices of Middle America in the 90's (not Hollyweird crap or grunge), I think he missed the mark. People in the 90's were more conservative (more anti-gay, more religious, etc.) than they've been since; let's not forget the wave of right wing terrorism that the 90's early culture war provoked (intriguingly, two of the iconic terrorists were white male Gen X-ers of founding stock descent, Eric Rudolph and Tim McVeigh both of whom were clean-cut and felt like outsiders in the post 1970 Western multi-cult sewer). I had several acquaintances whose families at the time were very religious/conservative families (no swearing, grace before dinner). Hell, even my parents watched more of the religious themed TV shows and my Mom infrequently went to church.

In hindsight, we didn't learn squat from 9/11; people might've been more fun for a while, but our immigration policies got worse, ID politics and PC tightened their grip, people became more culturally liberal, we launched a series of never ending stupid wars, the list goes on. We really should apologize to the 90's; they could've been better but they weren't THAT bad.

Audacious Epigone said...

Feryl,

Everything felt like it started to coming apart in the 2000s. That's a riff off Murray's book title, but not just the book. The hunkering down became palpable. Grunge skepticism gave way to full-on polite but distant solipsism. The closeness of all the families on the cul-de-sac I grew up on are far removed from the neighborhood my kids are growing up in now even though externally they're virtually identical (in terms of SES and demographics--our house is less than 3 miles from my childhood home). I was born in 1983 and feel like a child of the 90s. The 2000s and 2010s seem like a different world. I'm not sure how much of that is generational--something for which I lack your instinctive awareness--and how much is a consequence of social media consuming such an extraordinary amount of young people's down time.

Mil-Tech Bard said...

Feryl,

Regards this --

>>Those changes were complete by the 70's; real Gen X-ers (e.g. those born after 1966) have NEVER known a world where stoicism, modesty, good faith teamwork and effort, and so on were earnestly pursued and rewarded.


I disagree strongly.

The coming apart was roughly megacity, major city, large city, small city, town, small town and finally rural.

That is, a person growing up in small town/rural Oklahoma in the 1980's might be just beginning to see 1950's stoicism, modesty, good faith teamwork start to fall apart while someone in Southern California at the same time would never have seen it.

The mass move of 3rd worlders post 9/11/2001 into the small city, town, small town and finally rural areas are when the falling apart was unescapable.

Feryl said...

What really influences us is what we experience as kids and teens, and societal trends tend to be much more important from a generational perspective than a geographic one. Which is to say that Boomers from all regions have similar tastes, memories, sense of obligations, and so on. Didn't really matter whether you grew up in Detroit or Houston or LA or Boston. Likewise for X-ers, who watched MTV at an impressionable age, thought protesting and "movements" had been rendered forever toothless and uncool by Boomers, assumed that stupid leaders would blow the world up, and actually got along better with their parents than Boomers even though Gen X-ers faced more poverty and abuse.

The "generation gap" basically disappeared in the 80's, to the extent it existed at all in the 80's it was as a marketing ploy exploited by the 60's generation who kept hoping to sell Gen X teens on the idea that it was "important" to take up arms against your elders. Meanwhile, teens were actually more interested in hanging out at the arcade or watching the latest Depeche Mode or Def Leppard video than "expanding consciousness" or affecting to fight on behalf of their generation. In fact, the main source of tension was from older generations indicting X-ers for not visibly acting concerned about more things. Hell, there probably were times that parents and authority figures would've preferred teen X-ers to shout and punch over things, instead of giving the iconic Gen Xblank stare and silence. Like the scene in the Breakfast Club, when the principal challenges a Gen X trouble maker to punch first; no adult in their right mind would've done that to a young Boomer. Then again, adults never saw a young Boomer who was brazenly indifferent to an argument or confrontation.

Over at Agnostic's blog he did some posts about how Gen X-ers are noticeably less likely to interact with strangers and even neighbors. Particularly with the later born ones, some avoid even saying hello towards people who aren't close to them. And these trends intensified with Millennials.

Leaving aside diversity issues and looking at striving, it explains a lot (and immigration levels are correlated with striving anyway). Striving begin to increase in the 70's when early X-ers were children, and only got worse in the subsequent decades. Early generations were socialized to be welcoming and polite so as reinforce the notion that we're all in this together and we shouldn't pretend to be an island onto ourselves. As we went past 1970, status differences and mobility increased such that the children who grew up in a period of weakening signs of community no longer sensed that they owed their neighbors or countrymen the basic courtesy of a greeting.

And full blown Millennials (e.g. those born after 1986) are the worst of all, being noticeably uncomfortable at dealing with people, which can be partly attributed to growing up in a cocooning era. After all, Silents ended up being noticeably ill-at ease compared to G.I.s and Boomers, though even Silents were never as awkward as Millennials since the mid century smoothed out status differences so people at the time felt obligated to learn how to greet and make polite small talk with others from an early age.

As usual, the first two decades we remember affect us our whole lives. For Silents, it's the 30's/40's or 40's/50's. Boomers, the 50's/60's or 60's/70's. X-ers, the 70's/80's or 80's/90's. Poor Millennials got stuck with the worst combo of a high striving and cocooning era.

Mil-Tech Bard said...

Feryl...ummmm....no.

One of the life lessons of being a military dependent going to schools across America is learning that geography is indeed more important than generational markers.

Gonmg to schools in inner-urban Norfolk VA, Detroit area suburbs and small town Ohio in the 1980's related to my family's military service made very clear that, as far as cultural trust markers are concerned, geography trumped generations.

The dysfunction of black majority inner city urban schools was "full on jungle" in the early to mid-1970's.

Dysfuction was present in mixed white-black inner suburban Michigan schools, to a much lessor extent, in the early 1980's.

It was not present in small town public schools that I attended in the early 1980's.

It was not until the post - 9/11/2001 era that drugs and crime showed up in truly rural schools.