Tuesday, January 31, 2017

Diversity is strength! ... It's also tax cheating

Excerpting TWCS, Heartiste talks about quantifying the costs of Diversity!, the structure of which is characterized by an iceberg effect with the most conspicuous costs representing a small fraction of the total while the most go unnoticed by all but the few who deliberately look for them.

While TWCS defeated the kraken, I'll throw my slippers at the beast's carcass. In the nineties the GSS asked respondents how they felt about cheating on income taxes. The following table shows the percentages who answered either it wasn't wrong or it was only "a bit" wrong among whites (n =  1,534), blacks (n = 304), and Hispanics (n = 123) (the question was only asked twice and consequently sample sizes were too small for Asians):


The ethnic group most morally repulsed by tax cheating*? Surprise, surprise, it's those of English or Welsh ancestry (n = 298), with just 9.9% judging it to be either not wrong or a bit wrong.

* Among groups with at least 35 responses

GSS variables used: RACE(1,2), ETHNIC(1-16,18-29,31-97)(17,22,38), TAXCHEAT(1-2,3-4)

12 comments:

JayMan said...

Interesting. The results go in the expected direction.

"The ethnic group most morally repulsed by tax cheating*? Surprise, surprise, it's those of English or Welsh ancestry"

You can't use GSS ancestry for such analyses. Yes, there is signal in that noise, but when you look at these things, you don't know if you're seeing the signal or the noise.

Dan said...

Being a pessimist, I worry that the craziness of the left is not moderating but rather is hardening.

That acting attorney general had no legal basis for rejecting Trump's executive orders and yet did it anyway.

These people hate America with all of their being and will burn it down to get their resentful way.

The left by all rights should be ruling right now, if they could only be moderate and represent Americans. They cannot.

The left seems to want to establish some kind of permanent right to immigrate, which is insane.

Hopefully Trump breaks this insanity by relocating refugees to SWPL territory.

Audacious Epigone said...

Jayman,

All the usual caveats with self-reported data, especially something like ancestry, applies. It's nothing more than suggestive, and I don't mean to suggest (heh) otherwise.

Dan,

The right, specifically the alt-right, is responding in kind. Increasingly that may come to be seen as of necessity rather than choice. We always have to be careful with historical analogies, but when Caesar returned to Rome the situation became one in which he had to hold power or he was done. So it is now with Trump--we have to keep the left from ever fully consolidating power again because we have a taste of how bloodthirsty they'll be if they get it again. The political dissolution of the US seems almost an inevitability to me now. I'd rather be on the side that stays than the side that goes, but one way or another a separation is coming.

Feryl said...

Is there anything analogous to what we're going through right now? Ya know, the smaller town/less educated vs. more cosmopolitan/over educated?

I don't think we're going to ever see outright secession. How do we divvy things up? How are both sides going to function? The Dems have mostly become the party of people who work with their brains (or aspire to exclusively work with their brains) and people who don't work at all (or are AA beneficiaries). GOP'ers (including prole ex-Dems who've crossed over likely for the rest of their lives) under Trump have become the party of those who work with their hands (and don't necessarily mind it).

I'm obviously generalizing here, but overall whether the the really New Left gets it or not, they need us. They might detest our disposition and our stubborn traditions regarding borders, morality, the economy etc. But they need our muscle and industry.

Something to consider too is that neatly excising states/regions is hard to fathom because we're talking about big urban metro areas vs everywhere else. Are Chicago and Minneapolis going to be become separate city-states? Not that I would mind, but this arrangement is extremely unusual outside of a handful of exceptional places like Hong Kong and Rome.

There seemed to rumblings for a bit about Canada and the far northern states uniting, but that ain't happening in the Midwest. Nowhere near enough cultural affinity between Anglo Canada and much more teutonic/Slavic upper Midwest. Besides, Canada isn't as individualistic as America. What does the average Krause, or Dahl, or Carlson think of Samantha Bee? And it goes without saying that Canada is as anxious ever to distance themselves from us in the wake of Trump. And they're now being subjected to a Leftist doofus named Justin, umm, who were his parents again? They Jeb!'d themselves up there. What gives?

Feryl said...

I do think that our current predicament is unprecedented. Why? Tech leading to greater ease and freedom of movement and communication. Merkel, bless her heart, had absolutely no clue that word would spread so fast about the invitation to Germany, that so many would come so fast, or that 3rd Worlders are really that cynical and ruthless about cheating and deception. At least an American Boomer from the business realm like Trump is accustomed to anticipating BS; one thing that's a plus about drawing from that realm is that these people are not going to have the same idealism (naivete) as Obama or Merkel.

We got burned by cosmopolitanism in several past phases, but back then there just wasn't the same level of sophistication or fast pacing. As late as the Ellis Island era, foreign strivers faced a great deal of uncertainty and ignorance about their passage, their acceptance at their destination, and the fate of family (not withstanding the glacial postal system of the day, which was even more shaky outside of the Anglosphere). It's just not the same anymore. The primarily NW Euro innovations of the mid-century and beyond have been turned against us.

It's not just the 3rd Worlders dragging us down, either. Modern transport/telecom has led to a ghastly democratizing of cosm. elites/wannabe elites. Pre-20th century, traveling was so onerous that the only ones who did it as a matter of pleasure/status-seeking were a rarefied class. Beginning in the 70's/80's in particular, we've seen a sizable number of not exactly rich or privileged people who are able to not just hop from one trendy domestic spot to another, but even from one country to another, with the men (and the bulk of travelers in any era are men since men are much less anxious about strange and possibly dangerous lands than women) often marrying foreigners in the process. This even happens to people on "our side", like Jared Taylor or Fred Reed). As Sailer points out, the media never stops harping about poor kids and women migrating, yet as we all know, adolescent and adult males invariably are the most prone to being footloose and braving the rigors of traveling.

Random Dude on the Internet said...

> So it is now with Trump--we have to keep the left from ever fully consolidating power again because we have a taste of how bloodthirsty they'll be if they get it again. The political dissolution of the US seems almost an inevitability to me now. I'd rather be on the side that stays than the side that goes, but one way or another a separation is coming.

I agree and it's been discussed for a while now it seems here and in other alt right sites that balkanization seems inevitable. People may think that is sad but America is barely recognizable as it stands now. It's time we see things for what they are, not what they used to be before it's too late. We cannot keep going on together as a country unless the left is absolutely decimated as a political force; it almost requires some kind of constitutional amendment that permanently breaks the back of the left. What that is, I don't know.

Audacious Epigone said...

Feryl,

It feels cucky to bring up assimilation, but tech makes that virtually (heh) impossible. Afghanis come here and they spend their abundant free time face timing with their relatives back in Kabul. The Chinatowns and the little Italys are virtual now--even in a sea of core Americans these newcomers can be firmly planted back in their countries of origin. I have three examples of it on my street. One Indian family and two Korean families. They wave and they're outwardly friendly but they're not neighborly at all (they close the garage before they even get out of their cars, etc). The adults are all first generation (I don't know about their residency status)--I imagine the entire extent their meaningful, trust-building social interaction takes place with people on the other side of the world.

WRT marrying out, the Derb, too. There does seem to be a weird predilection for it among our boomer thought leaders. I get that American women can be fat and entitled but there are 170 million of them out there

Audacious Epigone said...

Random Dude,

Seven-figure deportation--forced and/or voluntary--and the reconfiguring of black identity to core American identity just to give it a chance. In other words, the longest of long shots.

As for how secession occurs, it's probably a state leaving like Calexit. Once one goes, the union is suddenly on extremely shaky footing because the political balance gets tipped drastically in one direction or the other (in the case of Texas or California, the two states that seem the most likely to leave).

Another way a sort of faux-secession could manifest itself is through the refusal of states to implement federal programs or adhere to federal guidelines, judgments, etc. This is the approach the 10th amendment center takes. It's worth being aware of.

Dan said...

Things are proceeding very differently from how I thought.

I had expected the following, in order:

(1) The left wins in 2016 and consolidates. Things move left and decline but the decline is self-limiting.

(2) Sensible people on the right become Democrats in order to have a voice.

(3) With no right wing to act as a foil, the left (in my imagination) is forced to deal with problems and moderate. Things are dreary and maybe a bit Communistic, but the left also acquires a sort of utilitarian practicality.

I based this outlook on my Montgomery County, Maryland where elected officials (Democrats all) maintain strong order and generally are hardworking grownups, with nobody on the right to blame. Stuff is still orderly, and people can still have great families and become rich.

Instead Trump won and now it seems as though the left has basically lost their minds. Are there any voices of moderation on their side now?

Maybe my imagined future for a Democrat world was overly optimistic. Maybe the real future (which still threatens) is Venezuela, where leftism is damaging but the electorate just keeps voting left.


Feryl said...

"It feels cucky to bring up assimilation, but tech makes that virtually (heh) impossible. Afghanis come here and they spend their abundant free time face timing with their relatives back in Kabul."

One dire possibility: previous assimilation happened out of necessity, ignorance, and desperation. Cut off from the old country and threatened by the natives of the new country. Tech and tolerance have made modern migrants way too comfortable. We've even seen blacks reverse assimilation after centuries of being nominally American (late Boomer blacks have a thicker ebonics accent and vocabulary than previous black gens., and accents have grown thicker with later births). Jews have gotten way more uppity too, of course, exploiting holocaust guilt to a nauseating degree.

In other words, non-Gentile Europeans/non-East Asians need to be, in the words of Hilary, brought to heel. We just can't expect them to conform to our standards at their own whim.

Audacious Epigone said...

Dan,

Based on race for head of the DNC there doesn't appear to be any moderating influence on the left at all. That Jim Webb couldn't break the 1% ceiling in a contest against a Jewish socialist and America's most hated lady is a sure tell. They say "all politics is local". Practically, yes, but ideology is much stronger on the national stage because all the feedback loops (not to mention the fiscal realities at the local level that don't exist at the national one).

A Texan said...

The big issue because of technology is that these people are not assimilating into American norms. There were always newspapers in other languages, but there was no TV, radio, internet, or video face time with people from the home country. Whether white or not, they are not assimilating in some parts of the country.

Way back when, the immigrant also had to have a sponsor.