Saturday, January 02, 2016

The company you keep

In 2006, the GSS asked respondents about people they trust. The percentages who said those they trust are either "almost all the same race as you" or "mostly the same race as you" among self-described liberal, moderate, and conservative whites (n = 493):

Political orientationTrust own race

The differences are marginal. In the words of the late Joe Sobran, "In their mating and migratory habits, white liberals are no different than the KKK." It's critical to understand the idea of revealed preference. Moral posturing and virtue signalling often thinly veil authentic beliefs. SWPLs' actions speak louder than their words.

It is, of course, to be expected that, even granting the absurd assumption that bonds of trust form randomly among individuals across racial and ethnic lines, whites will mostly trust other whites since they still constitute a majority of the adult population in the US. But if SWPLs are singing paeans to Diversity!, is it unfair to demand they pursue the thing their exulting the putative benefits of?

How about non-whites? If trust was unrelated to racial and ethnic identity, we'd expect few non-whites to say that all or most of the people they trust are co-racialists. Among NAMs, however, that is not the case (n = 141):

RaceTrust own race

Four centuries isn't enough time for assimilation to occur. Maybe we're simply not trying hard enough!

The pesky model minority strikes again, this time in the form of relative integration.

GSS variables used: TRTMYRAC(1-2)(3-5), RACECEN1(1)(2)(4-10)(15-16), POLVIEWS(1-3)(4)(5-7)


chris said...

What do you think the odds of Trump winning the presidency are? And what legitimate betting website has the best payback odds?

Paddypower has 9:2
Sportsbet has 6:1

are there any better?

Anonymous said...

Even the money bets are skewed by what "Big Data" is falsely telling people. This is sui generis. Trump is a big pay out.

Audacious Epigone said...


PredictIt has Trump at just outside 5:1. Hillary is of course odds on favorite at better than 2:1. Third is Sanders, then Cruz and Rubio.


If rally size and social media interest translate to anything close to realized primary support, this isn't even going to be close. Until recently, the PredictIt market had the Republican primary odds on favorite as Rubio, followed closely by Cruz and with Trump in 3rd. It's now Trump first, then Cruz, then Rubio, but their odds are almost the same. It'll be fun to have a field day with the pretentious dopes at fivethirtyeight if they're off the mark on this.

Anonymous said...

Well joe sobran is wrong. Census data does not distinguish Jews from Whites but if you were from the East Coast you would know that the ritziest zip codes all have a substantial Jewish minority. SWPLs salivate at the idea of going to elite universities, which are full of Jews and Asians. klan members would rather not go to school at all than go to school with Colored peoples. The most common form of interracial dating (and later on, interracial marriage) at the elite schools is between Whites and Jews. klan members would rather be single for life than date/marry a Jew.

Audacious Epigone said...


Jews comprise 2% of the total US population and they are concentrated in the NE. In most of the country, Jewish presence is negligible. It's a non-factor.

Of course the comment was supposed to be tongue-and-cheek, but if the comparison is made between race creationists and race realists at similar IQ/SES levels, the spirit of the remark holds. Wealthy whites want--and do everything in their power--to live around other wealthy whites, irrespective of their stated feelings towards poor minorities.

Anonymous said...

I still disagree. Even if we control for IQ and social class, WNs want to live in 100% White zip codes and would rather homeschool their kids than send them to a Phillips Academy. Most SWPLs prefer to live in a zip code that is majority White but not 100% so. Also, most SWPLs prefer to marry within the White race but have no problem if a friend or a relative were to marry interracially. WNs, even the high-IQ, educated, and high income ones would throw fits if their relatives and friends married interracially.

In short, most people want to live in a place where their race is the majority, but only extremist WNs insist on total racial homogeneity.

Alliumnsk said...

Hi Audacious Epigone, I'm a long time reader of your blog. I'd like to learn digging with GSS data myself, but it seems I lack something (though I am a asm/c/c++/python programmer). Any advice?

Audacious Epigone said...


So instead of extremism, you're basically saying that these attitudes exist on a spectrum. That sounds about right. In any event, there is a lot more daylight between SWPLs and WNs on stated preferences than there is on revealed preferences.


Email and let me know what your specific questions are. The interface is a little clunky but once you get used to it, it's easy to cross-reference data (finding specific variables never gets too easy though!).

Santoculto said...

I thought wn is reacting "excessively' against current situation but it's doesn't mean that they desire to live just among whites BECAUSE the race BUT as always happen, because similar behavior. Wn is itself a "over' reaction against current situation. Most of the wn seems are very deluded with average (generical) "non-white" behavior and based on very possible catastrophic demographic situation of people on the whitey specially at the long term the creation of biological safe space to white European populations look reasonable much more than left lunacy of full-proposal nation where every ethnic territories will be see as essentially "arbitrary'.

Santoculto said...

Subtly correcting:

Of course wn give greater emphasis on race but behavior or the combination between behavior and race are very important. Similar behavior is a universal search for mate, to most universalists to the most clannish.

Santoculto said...

Reaction, possibly talking because literal reaction by wn at least by now is virtually nonexistent and very predictable.

"White creativity" to save their own asses???