Wednesday, October 07, 2015

Pathological altruism

Pathological altruism--a mind disease closely related to political correctness that may prove terminal to western civilization--on display (assuming the alleged crime occurred):
A young, female ‘No Borders’ activist working in a migrant camp on the France-Italy border remained silent about her gang rape by Sudanese migrants for over a month because “the others asked me to keep quiet.”

Colleagues are alleged to have said that reporting the crime would set back their struggle for a borderless world.
Yes, this is an extreme example of it, but there are WEIRDOs reading this who will reflexively direct more anger at me for pointing out this heinous but avoidable tragedy than they will at the victim who put herself in a position to allow it to happen and the perpetrators who made it happen. That instinctive reaction is a less intensive manifestation of the condition, but it too is indicative of a mental pathology.

10 comments:

sykes.1 said...

From a Darwinian viewpoint, WEIRDOS are genetically inferior and will be replaced by the plainly superior immigrants.

Anonymous said...

A pathological altruist who appears to show concern for immigrants should be equally concerned with the victims who are being robbed, murdered, or raped by immigrants.

But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Because their motivation isn't altruism. Their motivation is status signaling. They want the appearance of higher moral virtue without sacrificing too much to get it.

JayMan said...

I never did like the term "pathological altruism" and I still don't. For one, it's certainly not "a mind disease"; it's not a defect. It's a feature, not a bug. Generous reciprocal altruism ("reciprocal" here to distinguish it from kin altruism; "generous" because individuals with this trait are wont to extend the first favor) is an evolved trait among WEIRDOs – a trait that now functions somewhat detrimentally.

The term "disease" and "disorder" are grossly misapplied today. They should be reserved for things are genuine Darwinian maladies – that is, behaviors/traits that are never adaptive in any environment. Autism, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, homosexuality, and transexualism all fall under that blanket (as would clear flaws like missing digits or limbs or having a hole in your digestive track).

On the other hand, what you call "pathological" altruism stems from an evolutionary mismatch: something that was adaptive in ancestral environments is no longer so in the present environment. In this case, the ancestral environment was a world filled with other high-trust people (NW Europe). Obviously such a strategy is not as effective when clannish people are around.

Audacious Epigone said...

Anon and Jayman,

Yes, I should be clear that I'm using this phrase in a vernacular sense, with the context of time and place and current situation all being relevant to the usefulness of the description. I don't mean to suggest that it is universally applicable.

I'm not using it in a strictly biological or clinical sense, my purpose is rhetorical. "Political correctness", "virtue signaling", and other like 'conditions'/behaviors are, even if deemed socially harmful in sum, obviously beneficial for the vast majority of individuals who 'suffer' from or engage in them. Strictly speaking we should probably refer to tubal ligations or even any sort of long-term contraception as pathological, too.

Parenthetically, the same could be said about a term like "psychopath" (and its associates like "sick" as in "you just ripped that rabbit's leg off, you're sick in the head!"), which likely provides a fitness benefit in many situations--probably now more that ever before given that reputation is probably more gossamer and malleable than it has been at any other time in human history.

It is worth distinguishing between universal altruism and leapfrogging loyalties, though. It's easy to make sense of how extending the trust/altruism shown for your tribe can be adaptively extended to non-tribe members when everyone involved is high-trust. It's more difficult to make sense of when it would ever be adaptive to offer a trust/altruism premium to people outside of your own tribe to the detriment of in-tribe members.

Audacious Epigone said...

Also, the term "sociopath" is even more problematic when it comes to precision than psychopath is.

Jeffrey of Troy said...

re: psychopath (double-dose)/"sociopath" (half-path)

http://jeffreybrauer.blogspot.com/2011/10/heritability-of-psychopathy.html

ziel said...

Nevertheless, if altruism can be assumed to be a more-or-less quantitative trait, such that there is an expected quantity in the average person, and near zero in a small-number of sociopaths, then we should expect there to be a similar number on the other end of the spectrum who exhibit such unbridled altruism that it seriously degrades their Darwinian fitness. I'd say "pathological altruism" is a fair term for such a state.

panjoomby said...

i'd bet this variable ("pathological altruism" aka high altruism for outgroups) has a highly positive correlation with what Mr. Derbyshire calls "ethnomasochism."
hmm, they may be 2 sides of the same coin, or maybe just points along a continuum.

Joshua Sinistar said...

What is even slightly altruistic about letting invaders kill and rape your people? That's not altruism its treason. The Left is made up entirely of losers. They hate their own people because they are losers. All of these leftists are the losers you met in High School. They didn't fit in. They got bullied and laughed at. They were stuffed into lockers or even worse ignored. Whether its the fat lesbians or the beta dorks, these are the losers who couldn't get a date and didn't have a clique or niche when you were going to High School. High School is an important time in your life. It is the period in between childhood and adulthood. These losers still feel the sting of being left out when they go to the Looniversities run by the left. They are easy pickins for the Marxists and the Faux Revolutionaries that cuck for the system. These idiots want so much to be part of the crowd, they are willing to join any of the fake astroturf that the system sets up to push their genocidal agenda. These losers hate their country and their race, because they are the bottom of the pile. They feel connected to Turd World Rubbish, because they are bottom of the pile trash too.

Santoculto said...

''The term "disease" and "disorder" are grossly misapplied today. They should be reserved for things are genuine Darwinian maladies – that is, behaviors/traits that are never adaptive in any environment. Autism, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, homosexuality, and transexualism all fall under that blanket (as would clear flaws like missing digits or limbs or having a hole in your digestive track).

On the other hand, what you call "pathological" altruism stems from an evolutionary mismatch: something that was adaptive in ancestral environments is no longer so in the present environment. In this case, the ancestral environment was a world filled with other high-trust people (NW Europe). Obviously such a strategy is not as effective when clannish people are around.''


Will summarise Jayman comments as

''sorry, but it is just my personal agenda''


Jayman continue believing that every trait need to be pass DIRECTLY and continue believing that same nonhuman darwinian context is exactly the same for human darwinian context.

leftoid people who celebrate mixed race babies and open border agenda are STUPID and DANGEROUS, even for human darwinian context. They live in a contraditory world, a kind of adaptative schizophrenia without religious-prone fertility. (well, christianism produce latin amurrica too, ;) )

Humans need BALANCE, the bad anti-social traits have their relevance and most of us have it, include of course ''dark enlightement''.

Too good people are the perfect victim, the perfect sucker, the classical domesticated ones.

They demolish own possibility to made kindness a norm and not just a metaphysical exception, a eternal ''ideal''. They are the real enemies of kindness because they cannot understand the mind where the evil predominates, while high functioning psychopaths (and all types of charismatics master minds) are experts on human mind.

leftoids blooding heart sacrifice onw family, every being around them (nonhuman animals included) by their enormous moralized narcisism, a monstruosity.

Jayman personal agenda is based on push ''liberals are just super-normal ones''
because they look for him without make important criticism...

and certain supposed ''darwinian maladies'' (sic!) need to be eliminated via genetic engineering, aka, bio-social-economic-market.

Still searching for smart blacks who can separates their narcisism than science.

Is not just ''iq'' that produces a great intellect.

If darwinian ''virtues'' could be directly connected with FERTILITY and INCREASE/SUSTAIN certain population, leftoids, those that Jayman call ''darwinianly normal'', in my opinion would be the worst malady of all darwinian diseases, ;)

If homossexuality was like a infectious disease (Ebola or Measles) I would agreed but not.

intelligence is very common among humans as well among nonhuman animals, wisdom is very rare and particular on human mind capacity.

Today the supposed homo culture is a trash, i agree a lot, is disgusting. It doesn't mean that ALL homos are like that and even that homos who engage in this high risk lifestyle need to be treated badly.... life is fragile and complex to be treated without understand motivations and look for people in a intimate approach.

Humans without any culture will look ''degenerate'' too.

Jayman need live with real people to become like him. He celebrate leftoid narcisistic kindness but don't understand it and don't practicise kindness.