Saturday, January 24, 2015

Obama's half-nephew on the maternal side could look like Grant Ronnebeck

Illegal Alien With Criminal Record Kills AZ Clerk Over a Pack of Cigarettes:

The corpulent cherub had been arrested on previous occasions on his way to acquiring a felonious rap sheet. Inexplicably, he still wasn't deported.

Don't expect to hear anything about this from the Justice Department or from Barack Obama about how Grant, the clerk, could have been his son. Nope, while the evil, white-hating president uses the bully pulpit to express sympathy for the dregs of society like Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and Michael Brown, because they're all black, he doesn't have a kind word in his lexicon for an innocent white kid whose totally avoidable death occurred due to his administration's utter dereliction of duty when it comes to enforcing the nation's immigration laws.

I've now started explicitly identifying myself as a dissident and a secessionist. I want nothing to do with the 21st century political entity referred to as the United States of America. My federal government hates me and I hate my federal government.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the numbers I'm standing next to, even if silently for now. From Ipsos-Reuters polling, the percentages of people who either "tend to support" or "strongly support" the idea of their "state peacefully withdrawing from the USA and the federal government", by age range:

18-29: 38.8%
30-39: 28.0%
40-49: 24.0%
50-59: 21.4%
60+: 15.3%

While support for secession tilts conservative, it's more of a generational thing than it is a partisan one. More young Democrats (34.0%) support secession than do older Republicans (23.9%).

Twenty years ago, no one took Scottish secession seriously. Then it almost happened. Catalonia could be next. Who thought Sudan would break up into two countries? The artificial lines on the Middle Eastern map that putatively demarcate the geographical dividing lines between titular countries have become almost meaningless in many places. There are more euroskeptics in the European Parliament now than there have been at any point since the founding of the European Union.

Consider same-sex marriage. Support for it was a distinctly minority position just ten years ago, and now most Americans support it. Things can change pretty quickly, and with each affront like this, that change gets propelled forward further.

The US is way too big, too disparate, too divided culturally, socially, religiously, politically. It's too diverse, and diverse societies never last. Never have, probably never will. The federal government, whether it be split, Republican-controlled, or Democrat-controlled, leaves hundreds of millions of people feeling unrepresented and forced to pony up for things they don't support, like wealth transfers to scofflaws and deadbeats or unending attempts to impose predetermined governmental structures on tribalistic countries that want nothing to do with what we tell them, at the barrel point of a gun, they should want.


IHTG said...

Interesting. Will this radically or otherwise alter your posting habits?

Shadoe said...

Where was his "white privilege" when he needed it? It must've been hiding in the back room talking to others about how racist it is.

Audacious Epigone said...


No, don't think so, because it doesn't seem like it should be that radical of an idea. I've long thought the EU should go away and am instinctively supportive of Flemish, Catalan, Scottish, Tibetan, etc independence. When it comes to political systems, the more localized the better.

Uncle Tom said...

We would not have to destroy the union. Proposals I have seen would have us in a loose union with perhaps 10 states, small enough to do away with the DC yoke on us now.

silly girl said...

I wonder how well this correlates (inversely, I suspect) with the percent of people in each age group that really expect to collect social security checks.

Anonymous said...

The problem in the US is that tons of your tax dollars go to the federal gov't which provides very few of the services you use. State and local provide almost all the services.

Audacious Epigone said...


Here's a starting point. The Left Coast would have to go by something a little more apropos like Cascadia.

Silly Girl,

Have to imagine that support for secession and confidence in receiving social security at retirement correlate inversely, though I doubt that's much of a driving factor. I can't imagine financially planning for our future under the assumption that social security will be part of any meaningful income stream.

Audacious Epigone said...


Right. But that's a reason that political disunion wouldn't be a big deal logistically. Daily life wouldn't change much for people not directly under the employ of, or contracting heavily with, the federal government.

DissidentRight said...

Secession is for good guys. I want to give the left a black eye and force them to secede. Also, leaving the military industrial complex in their hands could be disastrous.

My dream is for a black swan president to get a bunch of red state governors on board with full frontal nullification. There's tons of things red states would like to nullify. Roe v. Wade? Cya. EPA regulations? Good-bye. Marxist public school curriculum? LOL. Racial/ sexual/ deviant legal privilege? LOLOL.

Simultaneously, fast-track all red county/blue state secession movements, and grant them statehood by hook or crook. Oops, we just picked up 10 more senate seats for free. Gerrymandering, what?

And for the sake of appearances / pandering to general conservative good-guyishness, forget party lines. Heck, DC statehood can be the trojan horse.

As far as the money problems (entitlements) go, the Federal government "has" a lot of assets, particularly land. What a perfect excuse to sell it all and get it in the hands of the private sector. And maybe we could get China to hand over a few trillion in gold, in exchange for us ignoring any/all of their local territorial designs. Perfect excuse to rollback our ridiculous foreign policy.