Sunday, February 20, 2011

Of chimps and men

When I came across the video below (not for the squeamish) via OneSTDV, the following passage from Nick Wade's Before the Dawn sprung to mind (p148-9):
Chimp warfare takes the form of bands of males who patrol the borders of their territory, looking for an individual of the neighboring community who has been rash enough to feed alone. ...

Chimpanzees carefully calculate the odds and seek to minimize risk, a very necessary procedure if one fights on a regular basis. They prefer to attack an isolated individual and then retreat to their own territory. ... [Researchers] find that the chimps will approach as long as they number three or more; parties of two will slink away. Three against one is the preferred odds: two to hold the victim down and a third to batter him to death.


Are we really anything more than naked apes? Our primal natures are, as Frans de Waal argues, a hybridization of chimp and bonobo. Some groups, though, more closely resemble chimps; others have more in common with bonobos.

9 comments:

Olave d'Estienne said...

Are we really anything more than naked apes?

Men and women are much more than naked apes. Not all specimens of H. sapiens are men and women. The dividing line between higher and lower goes through our species, not between it and another species.

Minos said...

The bringing of slaves from Africa to North America was the single biggest blunder on Earth committed during the second millenium. Either that or simply freeing them at the end of the CW, rather than repatriation or complete geographical separation.

TGGP said...

As De Waal acknowledges, humans split off before bonobos. Since bonobos are a small group only able to naturally survive in a restricted habitat, I think our ancestors were likely more similar to chimps.

Audacious Epigone said...

TGGP,

Right, which is why I linked to the parapundit post on de Waal, as Randall points out as much therein, though I see how that could seem misleading.

Anonymous said...

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"I don't feel the taxpayers of Michigan are willing to become liable for that money with all the structural and institutional problems that exist," Scott said.

"We need a long-term solution for public schools for Detroit and the state," he said. "We just don't have the solution right now."

http://detnews.com/article/20110221/SCHOOLS/102210355/Michigan-orders-DPS-to-make-huge-cuts#ixzz1Ee7Ok0Xq

Anonymous said...

Reverse the races and this is national news with breathless mainstream media reporters elbowing out Al Sharpton to denounce racism in America.

Anonymous said...

Check out this one from just yesterday:

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979087343

And these are the educated ones.

Son of Brock Landers said...

This should be an advertisement for applying for a lifetime concealed carry permit. A gun, even a knife, would have been handy.

Anonymous said...

Here's one from Tuesday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxeZvUKpFbM