Thursday, September 24, 2009

Married men get it once a week on average

++Addition++In the comments, Roissy writes:
There is likely a significant cohort of married men not getting any nookie at
all and a smaller minority of rabid sex fiends banging their hot wives four
times a day. Skew happens.
He asserts that the GSS should be "taken with a grain of salt" when it comes to human sexual behavior. That's his prerogative, but for those who put more stake in large scale data than in anecdote, fewer than 1% of married men aged 22-36 report being in sexless marriages (no activity over the last year). Roissy's probably correct in assuming that the married man who has sex nearly 30 times a week (4 times a day) is even rarer than that. The best we can do with the GSS is observe that one in ten (9.6%) report having sex four or more times per week.

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Recently, Roissy wrote:
Married! This is what an equalist concept of relationships earns a man — crossed arms and clamped pussies.
In aggregate, of course, married men get more sex than unmarried men do. But that's because the latter category is dragged down by men who are unattractive or uninterested in women.

What about those guys who are able to successfully play the field? In addition to variety, do they also enjoy greater frequency? Among those aged 22-36, sexual frequency* for married men (4.15) is marginally higher than it is for unmarried men who have racked up double-digit counts (4.10).

Getting married will tend to net you about the same amount of snatch time as a go getter gets. The treasure chest won't be clamped shut, though your prize won't glitter as much.

GSS variables used: YEAR(2000-2008), AGE(22-36), SEX(1), MARITAL(1)(2-5), NUMWOMEN(10-250)

* Responses are by range for sexual activity over the past 12 months, from no sex at all on the low end (corresponding to a 0), to 4+ times per week on the high end (corresponding to a 6).

20 comments:

silly girl said...

For the, uh, outgoing type, it may be more the thrill of the chase. So if frequency is equal, and they value the chase, variety, lifestyle, etc. then, for them, many hot babes is their personal preference to say one hot babe to settle down with. Seems like just a difference in personality.

roissy said...

variety is the spice of life.

"Getting married will tend to net you about the same amount of snatch time as a go getter gets."

refusing the raw deal of marriage doesn't necessarily mean pursuing a life of skirt chasing in its place. long term relationships punctuated with the occasional fling will net double digit numbers in no time, with less energy expended than the typical hubby spends placating his wife.

"The treasure chest won't be clamped shut, though your prize won't glitter as much."

there is likely a significant cohort of married men not getting any nookie at all and a smaller minority of rabid sex fiends banging their hot wives four times a day. skew happens.

Anonymous said...

I would take Roissy more seriously if he didn't non-punctuate like a preteen emo girl writing on her LiveJournal about cutting herself.

Gerald B. said...

Interestingly enough, the title of your previous post works for this post just as well.

Audacious Epigone said...

Silly girl,

Yes, warm blooded guys are going to get something in the way of psychological and physiological reward during the escalation of sexual tension. Even when it's not sought after and lacks the thrill of a focused hot pursuit, it still gives the guy a nice little buzz.

Roissy,

Hard to disagree with serial monogamy over marriage for many men. The latter doesn't offer the guy much extra but exposes him to greater risk of getting railed financially.

Gerald,

Hah, we run the gamut here at AE!

Anonymous said...

"Hard to disagree with serial monogamy over marriage for many men."

Especially those on the Left half of the Bell Curve.
What common sense has failed to show many in the Steveosphere, thankfully, Rushton has: inordinate high interest in sex, promiscuity and even fantasies, are indicative of primitivism.
In other words, the more one fantasizes about and indulges in sex, especially with multiple partners, the more this signals one's lack of complexity, in an evolutionary sense.

Rushton: "But building a bigger brain takes time and energy during a
person’s development. So, these changes were balanced by slower rates of growth, lower levels of sex
hormones, less aggression, and less sexual activity."

"Racial differences are found in sexual permissiveness, thinking about sex, and even in levels of
sex guilt. In one study, three generations of Japanese Americans and Japanese students in Japan had less
interest in sex than European students. Yet each generation of Japanese Americans had more sex guilt
than White Americans their age. In another study, British men and women said they had three times as
many sexual fantasies as Japanese men and women. Orientals were the most likely to say that sex has a
weakening effect. Blacks said they had casual intercourse more and felt less concern about it than whites
did."

I've heard this put very crudely as "balls vs. brains".

RACE, EVOLUTION, and BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective
by J. Phillipe Rushton
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/reb.html

Anonymous said...

One has to wonder if Audacious has ever had sex? He doesn't talk about it like someone with much experience

Jokah Macpherson said...

"Roissy's probably correct in assuming that the married man who has sex nearly 30 times a week (4 times a day) is even rarer than that."

I think physiological limitations for both sexes pretty much guarantee this is the case.

Anonymous said...

Once a week is about right. It's actually pretty good if you've got kid(s).

roissy said...

"Especially those on the Left half of the Bell Curve."

or really smart guys who know the score.

"Once a week is about right. It's actually pretty good if you've got kid(s)."

once a week? what are you guys, 90?
once a week is a sexual starvation diet for me.

Anonymous said...

"once a week? what are you guys, 90?"

If you had a kid under the age of 2 you'd understand. =)

To be sure, that's roughly how often we have sex, but I spank the monk every other day of the week. Most of the time I'm happy to have the release without putting a lot of work into it.

Dale Gribble said...

married men are going to get it more often over time, but will have to work for it. when women marry their focus shift to establishing households, so men you will have to volunteer for extra chores to get your women in the right mood.

Audacious Epigone said...

Anon,

I'm not a fiend, but most recently had sex with the girl I've written about recently before our breakup a month ago.

The presumptive condescension directed at anyone who raises questions with regard to game's environmental narrative keeps serious discussions of human sexual relations from being as fruitful as they should be. I guess it shouldn't be surprising that such tactics are used in response to actual quantitative data, which pretty overwhelmingly suggests that sexual patterns have not undergone rapid changes in the last several years, and that hundreds of thousands of years of selection pressures have given women decent abilities in detecting genuine attractive qualities in men (women, of course, have little at their disposal to fool men into perceiving them as more desirable than they actually are).

Jokah,

Hmm, I'd guess that psychological limitations would be the real barrier. From my experience, it's definitely doable again after 30 minutes or so.

Roissy,

You're obviously atypical, superman.

Dale,

Harder than starting from scratch with a new acquaintance? You trying to discourage me from getting married and popping out the kids? I feel compelled to out of a sense of duty, but if you're correct, you're also damn discouraging!

Dex said...

AE - it's not more work than starting from scratch.

If you compare the frequency of intercourse between different types of couples, for example comparing married couples to cohabitating couples and break out cohabitating couples by staight, gay and lesbian, you'll see that the limiting reagent in this sexual chemical reaction is the married woman's libido. There are both adaptive biological and sociological reasons for this.

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snow_white said...

Yes, roissy, sure, let's go back to oppressive gender relations so that men can get more sex, let's also decriminalize rape, right? That would raise the number for sure. And why not bring back slavery since we're there? That would do wonders for the economy!
Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Anonymous said...

not necessarly... For this male, with over seventy years of interpersonal sexual activity, (with five partners) I feel that activity depends, to a great extent, on one's partner's wishes, desires and attitude. Currently, at 83, two ot three times a week is not unusual, though the actual act may change.