Thursday, January 31, 2008

Summers misjudged? A kernel of truth in what he said, after all

All officers must pass PTs and hand-to-hand combat classes to graduate from academy! The standards are applied evenly across the board, so that all of those in uniform are equally equipped to serve and protect! This tragedy could've befallen any of the city's finest:
NEW ORLEANS — A vagrant wanted for questioning in a rape overpowered a 24-year-old police officer who was trying to handcuff him, then shot her to death with her own weapon Monday, police said.
Yes, it could've befallen any of them! Even--especially!--that guy.

Equally equipped, indeed. But some are more equally equipped than others.

Political correctness isn't just annoying. It is deadly serious.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

It happened not too long ago in Atlanta. A savage criminal overpowered a female guard and then went on to commit more heinous crimes. But AE, it is important to remember that on the road to diversity and equality, there are going to be some accidents. It is too bad really, but having people killed is the sad price we have to pay to appease leftists, feminists, PC types, spineless politicans and elites who don't want to get bad press or point out reality.

Fat Knowledge said...

You know, I am not a fan of random examples like this to prove a point, because they can easily by twisted to "prove" whatever you want.

For example, say I don't think anyone, including police, should have handguns. Then I go with your same story, but for a conclusion I go with:
"Loose gun laws aren't just annoying. They are deadly serious.

It is too bad really, but having people killed is the sad price we have to pay to appease right wingers, NRA members who don't know what the R in NRA stands for, gun nuts, spineless politicians who aren't willing to stand up to the gun lobby."

Of course, I have no idea what really would have happened if she didn't have a gun, just like you don't know that a physically weak/distracted male wouldn't have ended up in the same place.

What I like about this blog, is even with I disagree with something, there are good numbers to back it up so it really makes me think it through. Maybe women shouldn't be police. I have read articles that say that they are actually better, and if I remember correctly they stated that women are less likely to get into violent altercations. But, you throw down some good numbers and analysis and I am willing to change my mind.

Posts like this make me worry that you are listening to too much Sean Hannity. :)

Dennis Mangan said...

The fact that a man overpowered and killed a female cop confirms the common wisdom that men are much better at a job like being a cop. Only liberals can't see the obvious right in front of their noses.

Carlos from Anaheim said...

Why the picture of Chuck Norris?

Audacious Epigone said...

Anon,

That savage criminal was a guy named Brian Nichols.

FK,

Look, I understand your appreciation of quantitative data, not anecdotes, to try to figure out why things turn out the way they do. And in my 'momentous' posts, I always go that route.

But sometimes an example illustrates something so well that I feel it's worth pointing out, for the reasons Dennis says. Maybe I should've pointed out that this was a rough area in New Orleans.

Military and police physcial testing has different requirements for males and females. That's problematic. Why would a lone female police officer be in a rough area like the one she was in?

Carlos,

Heh, well, would you try to take his gun in hand-to-hand and use it against him?

Rob said...

AP, someone, maybe Ilana Mercer, said that unprovoked tasings and teargassing disproportionately involve female officers, because they are more fearful, and less likely to be able handle someone once they become violent.

I don't knoe if the numbers actually back her up, but it does seem likely.

Does the Chuck Norris picture mean you endorse Huckabee? :)

Audacious Epigone said...

FK,

Also, re: proving a point, I'm not trying to be definitive. This is merely a particularly demonstrative example of something that seems so intuitively foolhardy.

Rob,

I've read something similar (probably the same thing) in the past.

As far as Norris, no, no. Anyway, I heard he was originally going to endorse Ron Paul but that concentration of awesomeness would cause some sort of rip in the fabric of the universe, and so he went with Huckabee for the sake of humanity!

Rob said...

My favorite Chuck Norris fact is "Chuck Norris can divide by zero."

I sent the website a few but I don't think they posted them. The only one I remember is "Chuck Norris can wear white after Labor Day."

There were Kevin Federline facts around for a while. Like, "when K-fed goes swimming, he doesn't get wet, the water gets dirty.

al fin said...

I am aware of three such incidents (female cops killed with own weapon) personally. I also know of incidents where male cops were disarmed and shot with their own guns.

The point is that institutions such as police forces, fire departments, militaries, medical schools etc. should not "dumb down" or "weaken" their standards for the sake of multicultural diversity.

I suspect that such statistics are intentionally not collected (or are intentionally concealed), in order that they not be used as an argument against multicultural hiring mandates.

MensaRefugee said...

Any post with a Chuck Norris picture...is a good post.

Get over it, move on with your life. ;)

Audacious Epigone said...

Rob & Mensa,

What is the draw to him, or more specifically, the silly cult-like sites devoted to his purported omnipotence? That's not a rhetorical question, 'cause I like them, too (My favorite is "There's no chin under Norris' beard, just another fist").

Al Fin,

A quick google search doesn't turn up anything. It'd be hard to do, anyway, since there are so many factors to control for. I presume, for example, that most police forces don't send lone female officers into bad neighborhoods to question shady men thought to possibly be involved/witness to rapes.

MensaRefugee said...

I think its a cult vacuum.

To dress it up in scientific garb...human beings have an urge to idolize, and with it being so easy to do in the modern world, an added urge to comic-idolize as well. Kind of a subconscious recognition of the idiocy of idolizing, or a way of telling ourselves "See, I dont only Idolize people who I adore, even some semi-random half famous hicks, ergo, I AM IN CONTROL of who I idolize!!"

Of course there is a limited market for comic-idolizing, and Chuck just got lucky and saturated the market.







... or we is just stupid :/

Audacious Epigone said...

Mensa,

Heh, I'm satisfied with that. Thanks!

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